30 thoughts on “Knife Time (I)”

  1. I would really like to know whether that is just typical for London (UK) or also common in other countrys because as fas as I am concerned I can say that we don't have such a problem in our country (Denmark). I also know someone who works as a paramedic in Germany and as far as I know there are just single incidents, nothing to actually “worry” about, there are no campaigns, no staff wearing stab vests etc. as in London. I just wonder why.EITHER there are far more freaks running around in London than elsewhere or it's just not public in other parts of Europe I don't know.

    But anyway, look after yourself:-)

  2. I don't know a word bad enough to describe that patient. And I don't care that he was drunk. Pulling a knife on a member of the ambulance service is way over the horizon of unacceptability.

  3. I *think* emergency ambulances in the UK (those used to transport patients) are always double crewed – one driver to drive the thing, one attendant to attend the patient in the back en route…there's also a lot of things like getting patients in and out of ambulances that really requires two people.Of course RRUs don't transport patients so they can get away with just one crewmember…

    Or is that not what you meant?

  4. Do you report this to the police, is there an official LAS policy, and if you do what happens as a result ? / d b

  5. I'm curious to know what proportion of your LAS vehicles – RRUs aside, of course – are double-crewed? (Apologies if you've already answered this question elsewhere …)The ambulance service I volunteer for has just made a move to ensure every ambulance is double-crewed at night for exactly this reason … safety. Fortunately (?) – and hopefully I'm not tempting fate here – our “clients” tend to use the weapons they were provided with at birth (namely fists and feet … and occasionally teeth). I'm sure I'd quit if I found myself requesting, or being issued with, a stab vest for my own protection!

    Angela šŸ™‚

  6. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4093898.stmAt last there are signs that emergency workers are going to be more effectively protected by law. While I recognise that this may not act as much of a a deterrent to patients who are acting through the effect or drink/drugs/mental problems, at least it will make it simpler to have their actions appropriately dealt with.

    Safe working to you!

  7. At least you get stab vests. The ambulance service that I work for has deemed them too expensive to warrant the cost.Glad to know that they can put a price on our lives.

  8. Love your blog. Hate your 'clients'. Stay safe Reynolds, and if you ever felt like nutting one of these morons, none of your blogees would blame you.

  9. I don't know that this is “typical” for London, but the danger is always there, not just for London, but for other parts of the UK as well.As to the why, that's a very good question to which I don't have an answer, but I have to say that pulling a knife on health service staff is probably a fairly “safe” option, you will in all probability be prosecuted and dealt with by the law, but you're not in danger of any rough treatment you might get from the police or other members of the public. Similarly you won't be denied any treatment once the situation is safe. I would have a well publicised policy of denying public health treatment to sane people who threaten (with any object) or assult any medical staff.

    I think then these instances would mainly stop in the UK too.

  10. Unfortunately for Reynolds, his blogees won't be sitting on the committee or whatever that would be deciding his disciplinary.

  11. There are forms and stuff to fill in, and you can call the police. The forms do nothing, the police can often take them away.My mate decided that removing the knife from the 'patient' and driving off was quite enough time to devote to this person.

  12. I almost never wear it – it's heavy, hot, uncomfortable, you can stil get stabbed in the face and it'd only slow me down as I tried to run away.So one day, expect me to be shot by some daffy old woman with her husbands service revolver…

  13. To be honest, I don't see the point behind the new law – All it does is make assaulting certain groups of people “more wrong” than, say, a little old lady.I just think that they should get a huge sentence if they try attacking someone who is trying to help them.

  14. Ermm…we don't have radios. Except in the cab of the ambulance/car.We do have mobile phones though – with special *oh shit someone is killing me* fast dial numbers.

    It's because the new emergency services digital radio network won't be around for a few more years.

  15. Your service are probably looking at how much injury they have protected us against.Two people (as far as I know)

    One who fell off his motorbike on his way to work.

    And one who was accidently stabbed in the chest with a syringe by a doctor walking through some curtains.

    Personally, I think that they are only any good if you wear them all the time – and most of us don't because it is so impractical.

  16. My own personal guideline…Better to be tried by twelve, than carried by six.

    (Think jury/coffin).

    Also we are pretty well informed on the law as it concerns self defence, and if someone came at me with a knife they'd likely get a large, heavy, metal oxygen cylinder wrapped around their head.

  17. It has been *cough* known that some crews have been rather vigorous with the old self-defense. The police then cart the attacker away and their FME (police doctor) treats the 'patient'.And we do have a policy that if someone attacks, or threatens us (without a 'good reason', like being cerebrally irritated), then we can withdraw and they can make their own way to hospital (or more likely, they call from another location and we send another ambulance).

  18. There was an incedent over here recently, when a guy tried to throw petrol over 2 crew members, who were on night shift outside the hospital… (parked in the casualty bay) he succeded in setting fire to the front of the wagon before calmly walking away.One of the crew put the fire out, but the guy that did it was then found by the police. (actually he phoned them from a phone box to say he was going to torch himself) when the police arrived, he produced a kitchen knife attached to a pole and proceded to swing it at the cops like a sword…

    the policeman who was trying to arrest him, could not shoot him as he had the petrol can on him, and god knows what would have happened if they hit that..

    they got him anyway, and he is up in court soon. But they reckon he will be back on the streets in days…

    You can see the article here:


    although the crew did not actually get any petrol thrown over them at the time, it makes good press šŸ™‚

    and the “marching season” starts soon…

    oh goody…

  19. Here in Melbourne we had a night crew of two be attacked by six drunk guys (long story). The crew got away and hit their distress buttons on the radio to call in all the police for miles around. The offenders were charged, one was let off, four went to prison for a number of years and one killed himself. I believe State laws are currently being changed to make the assault of a paramedic legally equivalent to assault of a police officer.- Klig

  20. Why do you need a new emergency services digital radio network, wouldn't it be cheaper just to piggyback on one of the larger digital mobile phone networks and use a private set of numbers on your mobiles?They could spend the money saved on extra crews, self defense training, lighter body armour (I believe presidents and prime ministers get the really good stuff)

  21. Had a very discouraging “animated chat” with a 14 year old this week who believes it is his god given right to resolve his arguments with his fists or whatever implement might be at his disposal at the time and that it is then also his god given right to have the consequences of his actions dealt with promptly by somebody else and that if he got injured in the proces then it was everybody else's fault and certainly not his and he deserves sympathy for his self inflicted injuries. I'd like to say he is an isolated case – he isn't.

  22. I think this is made all the more disconcerting by the fact it's titled “Knife Time I”.It's like having your first death as a nurse…it's gonna happen again eventually and you know it…

    sigh…the futility

  23. Knife pulled, equates to using Queens bury rules, Aussie style, taught me 53 yrs ago. The Aussie ladd, he be from a little known district called Kings X. DU: 1st: get rid of any referees [let them think, it be for safety], 2nd: all orifices to filled or enlarged and any excess attached parts like Ears & lower piece [your best guess] to be removed and discarded. Foot insteps to flattened where ever possible.'Tis best be done in quality suit , and followed by “Sorry Officer I don' know what came over me” straighten out the cravat. Tis best to have a wrench ready for use. The suprise come when some think one is a poof. Tis bad advice but it did give a longer life, to read about the wrong side of the street, London sounds so much like some of the worlds ports. Dungbeetle

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